My SIL got pregnant while on BCP. Her pregnancy was considered high risk, but went on to have a beautiful, healthy 8 lb. girl.
About being fat
I have read that being over- or underweight MAY hinder conception. Now, I don't think that goes for everybody, and I don't know how many pounds they meant, but it may make sense for her to follow your advice and slowly, healthily try to lose a few pounds while she's trying. I also have a friend who got pregnant when she was a bit overweight (let's guess 40 pounds, for the sake of discussion) her doctor recommended that she gain only 10-20 pounds during pregnancy, instead of the typical 25-35 that dr.s recommend for most women, so there was another off-set.
Proper diet/nutrition is so important...I, too, am interested in losing weight (approx. 20 lbs) B 4 I get PG. I am trying to exercise and eat properly. I know the idea isn't 'new' to anyone, but I've finally BANISHED diets from my life ... in my experience they have only caused me to gain more than I lost in the long run. I decided exercise is the only way to go....I incorporate it into each 'work day', so it doesn't seem like such a chore. If your friend is very overweight, I think it might not be a bad idea to wait B4 getting PG. When my best girlfriend got PG, she was +200 lbs and only 5' tall.....she had a horrible first 3 mos. High bloodpressure, sick all the time, extreme fatigue and the list goes on!!
I have never in my LIFE been the 125 pds they say is right for my height. I have been 145, 150, and am now at my personal heaviest at 165 BUT..... I am very healthy. very low cholesterol eat well, walk for exercise, garden etc. My DH tried to pull the " you need to lose weight" and I said WHY??? That's silly. There is no right weight to do anything at and I would rather be healthy and need to lose a few than stick thin and miserable. The older I get, and the way I look at my body has changed. I have thought I as fat for most of my life, until I finally realized that it wasn't me at all. Ok there was my diatribe for today..... Just be healthy!!! = )
I think it is about 20 per cent of couples who are BDing at the right time and have nothing wrong with them will conceive each month. But - you can't add them up and say that you have a 100 per cent chance of conceiving in 5 months.
Instead, imagine a group of 100 women all trying. In month 1, 20 will conceive. In month 2, 20
percent of the 80 who are left will conceive - 16. In month 3 there are 64 women left, 13 get
pregnant and 51 go on to month 4.
And so on. By month 12 you end up with only one or two left in the group of 100, which is why the Drs start to investigate if nothing has happened after you have been trying for a year.
Gina (aka Geans) says:
Some interesting statistics I received at my doctors appt today:
It also said optimal way of TTC is having intercourse every day for a time period of 6 days prior to ovulation.
Now I don't agree with that personally, but that is what it says, and I thought I would share. It also said that The New England Journal of Medicine reported pregnancies that the greatest # of pregnancies occur in the interval 6 days prior to ovulation and leading up to the day of ovulation.
My SIL had one ovary removed.....and had a beautiful baby boy three mths ago!!
Mary (aka teller) says about LPD:
I just found out by charting that my luteal phases were 6-9 days. I went to the doctor and he prescribed Clomid. Although Clomid is usually used to make women who do not ovulate to ovulate, it can be used to correct the Luteal Phase defect. On my first cycle of Clomid, I went from a 8 day luteal phase to a 12 day phase.
Although all the books say a cycle can be as short as 24 days, I personally have experienced cycles as short as 20 days. Mine usually run between 20 and 25 days.
Some say that these short cycles makes a woman infertile, but I am not infertile since I have a 3-year-old child and had a miscarriage.
It has been my experience that women coming off of bcp often have longer cycles until their system gets back on track. If you wait a few months after bcp you can usually see a patter emerging. Cycles aren't always consistent.
Typically it is 14 to 16 days before your next AF is due. This can vary though. To get an idea figure when you would expect AF again based on the first day of your last period and count back 2 weeks. I've found this to be pretty close and my cycle is about 32 days.
Chloe_c says about early ovulation:
I always 0'ed on day 10 so it is highly possible. Do you chart your temps as a temp shift would confirm that 0 has happened. CM is the best indictaion so if you have wet CM or EW CM, things are looking great for you!!!! You will 0 up to 36 hours after a ++++ OPK and it is said that your best chance of conception is the day before 0
DawnR gives a more technical answer:
When your temp rises, the progesterone is what is causing the temp rise.. (get it Pro gestation..) The egg is releases during the estrogen phase of the cycle. As soon as the egg is released, your body chemistry starts to change from the estrogen (egg developer) to progesterone ( egg gestation and implanter) So by the time you get your temp rise.... the egg has already left ( or as I like to say, Elvis has left the building) and your "peak" fertilization time has past. It's one of those myths that you should try as soon as you get the temp Rise, it's all over ( for the most part) by then. The temp dip (if you get it) is a better indicator.
Lori_C1 had once monitored clinically her cycle and here is how it went:
So, I started U/S daily from day 9 (and an U/S on day 3 as the baseline for hormone counts) and continued until the follicle was released. My temp on day 9 was 36.45 (97.6) and I had a bit of ewcm (which I don't get usually so I was excited) Day 10, follicle was bigger indicating a mature egg was inside...temp was 36.35 (97.4)...day 11 noticing wet cm (little puddle shapes in my undies) and temp at 36.25 (97.3)
Day 12 follicle still there and temp is back up to 36.46 (97.6) ...day 13 (today) temp still 97.6 BUT FOLLICLE IS GONE!! YES, I've o'd between day 12 and 13 and blood work shows the surge! So by tomorrow I'll have the rise! So, what I was told was this....sometime between 8am day 12 and 8am day 13 the follicle has released the egg....and in that time frame ovulation can take place. Now this fertility clinic states (through extensive research)that o will occur within 30 hrs of the surge.....
So, temps may not always tell the picture...start BD at least 4 days before o and BD EVERY OTHER DAY (Dr says that there is a reason they make you abstain for an SA test...do the same for BD) and continue for 3 days after the rise...
The pain doesn't relate to which ovary is releasing. Release is totally random (they don't alternate) Just signals O!
You get kind of a sharp pain on one side (one ovary) that lasts for a couple of hours. I'm just off BCPs and mine have lasted for a couple of days. : p Some people report that they feel twinges along with the pain.
O pains tend to become more pronounced when you're seated or bending over, as you apply more pressure to the lower abdomen in these positions.
They can occur before, during, and just after O, even preceding O by a couple of days. Since not everyone gets them every cycle, or at all, they're considered to be a secondary fertility sign and not to be used at the exclusion of the primary signs---temp, CM, and CP.
I'm usually VERY bloated about a day or two before I ovulate, plus my breasts and/or nipples get quite sore.
According to TCOYF, a woman cannot ovulate during her period. But for women who have short cycles, you can become pregnant from BDing during a period. This is because sperm can live up to 5 days.
Personally, last cycle I o'd on Day 7, but my period only lasted 4 days, so TCOYF was correct on that point.
If ovulation occurs, Progesterone becomes dominant (which explains the shift in temp when going from pre-ovulation to post-ovulation). Estrogen is still there in the second part of the cycle but at a smaller level and can be sometimes dominant for a day or two. That's why some women see their temps drop in this part of the cycle (in the fallback pattern), then goes up again when Progesterone becomes dominant again. AF then comes when Progesterone levels drops consistantly.
If Ovulation doesn't occur, both Progesterone and Estrogen swing and take roles in being dominant. That explains the temperature chart you get when you have an anovulatory cycle i.e: temp up (Progesterone dominant) and then temp down (Estrogen dominant), etc. In the mean time the lining continue to build up either in big quantity (explains the heavy anovulatory bleeding) or in a very small quantity (explains the very light anovulatory bleeding). After, it's this imbalance in your hormonal system which provoques the bleeding which in this case is considered as an anovulatory bleeding rather than your period. It can be heavy or light as explained above.
I only have one ovary, so the right side it is every month. So you see, you can ovulate on the same side every month. I had asked my dr about the alternating O and he told me that every month (now this is supposedly normal) there are sometimes up to 10 follicles trying to mature. But only one does. (usually) That one is the one that burst through and causes the pain. So it just so happens to be the one that is always on the same side.
Angie (aka tatie) says:
You see, in Jan., Feb, and April I got + OPK's, but then no AF. I just couldn't figure it out. Some people told me that it was possible that my body got ready to O, but then in the last minute decided not to. (THis is a possibility.) However, in my case it turned out to be polycystic ovaries. These can cause random LH surges, thus the + OPK, but no O or AF.
If this has been happening to you, I suggest going to see a dr. (Although I hope that nobody will benefit from this info!)
Scoon says: I went to dinner at a friend's last night and another couple was there and the man was a reproductive endocronologist! I was actually able to steer the conversation around to some rather personal issues, but he seemed very happy to discuss his specialty. This is what he told me about the question of how often to BD. The optimal way to get PG is to ABSTAIN for at least three days and then BD on the peak day and the next day. He says that a normal man can make enough sperm in one day to replenish his supply enough to get a woman pregnant in just one day once, but he can't do that day after day. He said BDing every day starting after AF ends and waiting for the temp rise is a bad strategy because after 2 or 3 days of BDing the sperm count starts dropping and there won't be enough, usually, to get PG after a week or so of doing it every night. He said almost a quarter of the couples who come to him get PG a few months after their first visit after he has them change their strategy. His advice is to use OPKs, abstain after day 7 or 8, wait for the OPK to go positive, and the BD that night, and the next night and the third night if you want to. The third night was sort of optional. But the important thing is to try to abstain for at least 3 days before the night when you are most likely to get PG, either the night of a positive OPK test or the one or two nights before your temps go high if you can predict that from CM or past charts.
Somebody posted before that there is still a 15% chance of conception when you BD on the day of BBT temperature rise. So i guess you canstill get pg even when you're 1 dpo!